Psychological Identity

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 442

Psychological Identity

There are several points I would like to make concerning psychological identity.  For the sake of analogy only now, imagine your present self at the center of a circle of endless spirals.  You are yourself, and yet one of the spirals that form the circle.  You are a vortex for the circle.  You do not have to contact it nor its other spirals, in that you already belong to it.

Now the same is true of other portions of your entity, if you consider any other given portion as being the vortex of its own circle.  In any psychic investigations or endeavors you will often gain assistance and support from these others who make up the circle of which you are a part.

Now I am speaking simply, for I am speaking of a circle as you understand it in three-dimensional terms, but there are more depths and dimensions to a circle than you can imagine when you picture, say, a globe; and so of course in this analogy identity has other dimensions that do not appear.

There are points or identities more easily reached from any given viewpoint within such a multidimensional structure.  Imagine a superstructure of a circle, put together like a pie, except that each segment is also in itself a globe, and that this structure is in itself an exterior one, the multidimensional equivalent of the pie’s crust or the apple’s skin.

Now the circumference of these circles interlap and bisect each other.  Nor are the dimensions of circumference or radius stationary in your terms, for they exist in value fulfillment rather than in space, and their measurements in terms of intensity rather than in inches or miles.

They are to a large degree, but not entirely, self-perpetuating, as if the seeds of an apple, instead of falling down to the ground, fell backward into some mysterious dimension within the core of the apple itself.  And yet because of the creative abilities of this mysterious dimension, more than inbreeding would be concerned, for it of itself could provide entirely fresh and new elements out of which further creativity could come.

Now this is identity as it is not generally known, and in this analogy lies the truth of the nature of identity.  Later you will understand it better.

You and Ruburt have changed since our sessions began.  I have also changed.  Because I have changed you have changed; and each new encounter continually changes, yet in a way that has nothing to do with developments, not single-line continuity.

From my standpoint your various reincarnated selves are not seen separately, but as your earthly personality.

Our contacts now are not just contacts with Robert F. Butts and Jane Roberts, and that is why I have always used your entity names.  The contact is also with other reincarnated selves that you do not presently recall.  I see a larger portion of your identity than you do.

And when I speak to you I speak also to other portions of you that I have known and do know.

(“What do you see right now?”)

Right now I see you symbolically speaking, in your terms, as the sum of the various people I have known in past lives as you, plus the you that is present, in your terms.  In terms then of vision, I see Joseph rather than Robert.  And I speak through Ruburt rather than the less – rather than the more limited concept of Jane.

Now.  Our relationship, simply in these terms, is multidimensional.  For you also react to me unknowingly on the basis of other relationships with me that you do not consciously recall.

In the future now that Ruburt has loosened, we will deal with your reincarnational backgrounds in some detail.

In terms again of the image set up earlier, there are various reference points where overlapping areas of the various circles penetrate each other; and as has been mentioned earlier, Ruburt’s personality presently is in such a psychological location.

Your reinforcement is necessary however, for you act as an amplifier.  One of the reasons is obvious, to me.  My own personality, as simply as possible, also represents such a reference point or entry point between you and Ruburt and myself.  Because, again as simply as I can explain it, because of our natures a certain field has been set up of receptivity, and though our positions change, the quotients within it do not.

Now mathematicians will not like this, but in your terms within the multidimensional circle image, we form a triangle.  The triangle is mobile, but we are to some extent eternally allied.  We were always formed something more than we are individually, in your terms.

Now this is not unique by any means.  There are numberless other such situations, and I mean numberless.  Comparatively speaking however, the situation is unique.

Now within our relationship as a triangle, dimensions are open and constantly changing.  Because of it we have all a rather unusual freedom.  Now, I am part of another triangle still, that is within this circle, and through my contacts with this other triangle there are abilities, perceptions, insights, talents available to you that you have barely begun to tap.

You will (to me) particularly since Ruburt makes his way from his own dark age.  One of these developments will occur in our sessions, one in particular through Ruburt outside of a session, I believe, and another should take place initially Joseph through you.  Or with you as main agent and instigator.

The other personality for which Ruburt has spoken is a part of this other triangle.  Which leaves you with two unknown elements you see.  Surprises are not surprises unless their main elements are withheld.  I tell you this so that later when developments occur, you may find that within our sessions, again, that the ground has been prepared.

The circle image that I gave you is meant to represent the basic meaning of each individual’s entity.  Within it each individual is free.  In the simplest of terms I have tried to suggest through analogy the multidimensional aspects of a basic self.

You sleep and dream and waken daily, and know that you are you.  So in your physical life you die and begin a new life, with little memory of the one that has gone before, as you find it so difficult to recall your dreams.  Through exercises you can consciously remember some dreams.  Through exercises you can consciously remember some reincarnations.

If you are interested I will give you such exercises, but whether or not you remember these lives consciously is of little importance, for you have subconscious knowledge of them.  This is your last reincarnation, in your terms.  At death you will consciously realize the sum of your reincarnated selves. To me that is your personality, but this is only a small part of your overall self.  To me it is as if you had finished one life, you see.  To you it will seem as if you had finished many.

Then the integration will take place, and you will realize that the various incarnated selves were as but days in your present existence.

(To me.)  I speak to you as Joseph, and all unknowingly you react as Joseph; for Robert F. Butts alone, or Jane Roberts alone, would never have met me.