Monday, April 27, 2020

Extracts From Two Seth Class Sessions


… You do not need to write or preach to justify your existence.  Being is its own justification.

Now if you would each, for ten minutes a day, open yourselves to your own reality there would be no question of self-justification for you would realize the miraculous nature of your own identity.

The problems you set for yourself for this life you set in the hope that you will solve them. You do not set them for yourselves like millstones about your neck hoping ahead of time that you will drown. All you have to do is realize your own freedom. To cease being afraid of the fear of water, it is not water that you fear, but the fear, so face the fear and conquer it. 

You form the reality that you know, not esoterically, not symbolically, not philosophically; some great oversoul does not form it for you, you cannot put the burden there either. And though I stare at our friend here, who asked the question, this applies to each of you and to our friend, Ruburt. You form your reality and until you understand this completely you cannot change it, nor can you use your freedoms. 

You have in the past, collectively or individually, to blame a God or a fate for the nature of your personal realities, those aspects, indeed, that you did not like. Avoid the temptation to use, instead, the word, whole-self, for the personality is given, again and this is not new material either, the greatest gift of all. You get exactly what you want to get. You create from nothing the experience that is your own, and if you do not like your experience then look within yourself and then you can change your experience, but realize also, that you are responsible for your joys and triumphs. And realize also, that the energy to create any of these realities comes from the inner self. The energy, but what you do with it is up to the individual personality.

You are not programmed. Nothing happens because it must happen. Every thought that you have now changes reality. Not only reality as you know it, but all reality. In your terms you alter the past and the future.

Consciousness is not made up of balances so much as it is made up of exquisite imbalance, and the focus of awareness is to some degree the result of these exquisite imbalances. This state of excitability, and in this state of excitability, all elements are never known because new elements are always being created. And I am not speaking of physical elements but of psychological elements of those characteristics of consciousness for even those themselves continually change and merge. You are not now what you were ten minutes earlier. You are not the same being physically, psychologically, spiritually or psychically, and ten minutes later you will be different. To deny this is to try to force consciousness into some rigid form which it cannot be ever freed and to apply rules to it that make a very neat psychological landscape.

… The ego is merely the tiny pinhead that sticks up and pierces physical reality.


([Kyle:} “Then the learning experience is no more valid for having spent more time in a depression. There is not more gained because more time has been spent.”) 

Indeed, if, however, one portion of your personality has not learned from the experience, other portions may well, indeed, learn. And while one portion of your personality is in a period of deep depression, other portions may be highly creative of which you may not be aware in the present, in your terms.

… your present thoughts, feelings and emotions not only affect you but affect your probable selves and yet ….

(To Sue.) For this one over here, no probable self is at the mercy of negative thoughts of yours.

Each consciousness has its own responsibility for those thoughts and emotions that it accepts and originates.  The personality in its entirety includes, therefore, probable selves of which you are currently unaware.  This does nothing to negate the validity and integrity of the self that you know.  The divisions are illusions and when you wake up to yourself, to your true self, then you are aware of these other portions of your personality.

Now, in terms of growth and development and speaking now simply to get the idea across theoretically, you are working toward a time when the you that you now know will be aware of the entire personality and accept it as your identity.  The whole personality is not like some super self in which you are lost, in which the identity that you know is gone.  You must simply accept the fact for now until your own experience begins to prove it more and more.  That the inner identity, that you, is far more than you presently realize, and the best way to work toward such realization is to accept the self that you are now, as you are.  To feel the movement of the spontaneous self.

You are presently within one system of reality, one probable reality, the reality that you now know and form physically.  Now within that one reality you have reincarnational selves, they belong within the concept of that existence.  All probable systems do not have reincarnational existences.  Some do and some do not, so that these exist only here, as far as you are concerned for the moment.

And I know I am only going to confuse you, but if you have probable selves then you know there are probable universes and probable earths and probable histories of your earth and you see what this is going to do to your concept of reincarnation as you now hold it.  So, within the system that you know, you also have probable reincarnational selves within those probable historical earths.  Now, this does nothing to deny the basic integrity nor validity of what you may prefer to call the soul.  It simply means that the inner self also is far more creative, far richer, and far varied and much different than you originally supposed.

… remember you call this your universe and your reality and it is indeed, for you form it and yet within you is also the knowledge of other great experiments that are being tried.  And other probable systems are aware of the experiments that you are trying, and in your terms and I am speaking now in your terms only which to some extent means that I am hedging the fence, other civilizations have gone your route, some have failed.  In your terms, the inhabitants of some earths, however, have succeeded very well and your future, in your terms, is not set.

You can follow any road that you chose, but until each individual realizes that he practically forms his own personal life, and has a part in the mass formation of reality that you know it, then there is much learning ahead for this is a lesson you are meant to learn within physical reality.

You are meant to judge physical reality.  You are meant to realize the physical reality is a materialization of your thoughts and feelings and images.  You are meant to realize that the inner self forms that world.  You cannot be allowed, in your terms, to go into other dimensions until you understand the power of your thought and subjective feelings.  So, even when you think you destroy, you destroy nothing.  And when you think that you kill, you kill nothing.  And when you imagine that you can destroy a reality, you can only destroy a reality as you know it, the reality itself will continue to exist.

You think a thought and because you cannot follow it you think it disappears and you wonder where it has gone; has it fallen off some invisible cliff within your mind? But, because you cannot follow the thought, and no longer perceive it, because you can no longer hold it in consciousness, does not mean that that thought no longer exists and does not have a reality of its own, for it does indeed.  And if a world escapes you and you cannot follow it and you think it has been destroyed, then the same thing applies to the world as to the thought.  It continues to exist.

Saturday, April 25, 2020

Except from the Wingmakers "Art of the Genuine"

(for the full text go to

Wingmakers Art of the Genuine (page 5):  

As you can see, there are two main components to this practice: drawing in the fields of intelligence that surround you, and expressing these emotions and attitudes in your behaviour and actions.  What most people do is to express their emotions without drawing in from the fields of intelligence that surround them - without “soaking” in the divine love that surrounds them at all times in all circumstances.  

Thus, to practice the art of the genuine, your feelings must be drawn from the energetic “well” that provides you the linkage to First Source and the potential for co-creative expressions.  This linkage has existed as long as you have existed.  It is not newly created.  Perhaps, instead, it is newly forgotten.

Friday, April 24, 2020

Extracts from Seth Class Session, January 26, 1971


… No system of consciousness is ever closed, only you pretend that they are closed.

Now your personality has no limits. Now each of you, in this reality, have decided upon emphasizing certain characteristics and forgetting others. You have allowed, therefore, certain characteristics to come to the surface, and you are aware of them and you use them and you think these characteristics are myself. 

The ego is a king with a very precarious crown, and you think you are what your ego is. It does not occur to you, however, that there are literally countless, countless probable egos within yourself, numberless abilities that could come to the foremost of your consciousness to be latched upon and used. You are unaware of these buried selves, these buried abilities, these buried creative functions and combinations, and yet in other layers of reality these come to the forefront and you allow these their play and the characteristics that you think of now so securely as your own, these are buried. But while they are buried, they are not unaware, they are in trance and you can become aware of them. 

Within the self that you know there are countless combinations of selves that you do not admit, and in other layers of probable realities these selves have their say and live out their potential. They are sleeping within you in this reality, but in those realities you are sleeping within them as latent potential. 

Now the trees that you see outside the window you see simply as trees because you perceive them only through the physical viewpoint, and yet even these trees have potential abilities and potential combinations of consciousness that you do not perceive and that exists in other probable realities. 

(To Ned.) And you find rest beneath trees that are not physical, and you travel quite safely in areas that are not physically perceived.


(To Sue.) Within you, for example, and everyone in the room, there is an unlimited amount of what you would call identity. Now all you do when you have an identity and focus on it, is grab out of your own bank of potentials a group of potentials and say, “these are the ones I will settle upon for now, and these I will call my identity, and so I will use these and I will ignore anything else.” But another portion of the self says, “ah hah, these potentials are not used, they are freewheeling and I will adapt these and these will be those potentials with which I will work.” There are no potentials within you that are not being realized and no creative abilities that are not being used.

(To Joel.) Now, our friend here has taken his first steps from the diving board and his brave friend here is afraid that he will drown. You are beginning to use abilities that you have always had. Beginning, in Ruburt’s terms, therefore, do not get uptight about using them. When you are learning to walk or swim you do not stop to think, “How am I doing this, will I meet a mean old fish or not, will I pull?” and you do not imagine the dire consequences that may, therefore, attend you and do not do so now. You have a level head, and so do you, use it. That is all the advice that you need. Enjoy your freedom. 

Recognize the fact that distortions will occur, particularly in the beginning. You are flesh and blood at this point of space and time as you think of it, and not sterile pure air, therefore, what you receive will automatically come through the subconscious layers of your mind. There will be specks of subconscious dust on it. Later you can wipe them off, but do not discard the entire experience because you fear these specks of dust. Learn to work through them. And he will not go beyond some point where you cannot follow. You will not lose him in a nether land or some forsaken place where you cannot reach him, so do not fear that. Instead, if the abilities are used, and used widely, you will find you will come closer together and not further apart and without the security of knowing that you are there he would not use the ability. He would not use them for he needs to know that the physical universe, like the floor, is directly beneath his feet and that there is someone there who wants to make very sure that he will get back. Therefore, the doubts that you voice are also his own unvoiced ones so do not be ashamed of them. Do you follow me? You are beginning. The personality that you are now encountering will also change for he is also beginning in his own line of endeavor.

([Don Palmer:] “When you say we have all been involved in a previous life with these problems, what problems in particular are you referring to?”) 

Problems involving the nature of consciousness, the nature of reality and problems regarding the responsibility of consciousness to All That Is. Questions as to whether or not All That Is exists and if so your place within it and your responsibilities and your joyous abandon.

… The meaning of your being and the meaning of All That Is is as close to you as your breath and if there is any division between you and All That Is it is a completely artificial division that you have yourselves erected and maintained.

… You cannot stand apart from All That Is and examine it. You are a part of it. You can wonder about the nature of existence and about your own purpose but you cannot deny either, since you are alive and who wonders then about the nature of reality and your own purpose. Who is the self that wonders and where does it derive its meaning and its energy. The answers, basically, are not to be found by listening to me, although I can help you, the answers are to be found by listening to the inner voice within yourself. Your heartbeat has more to tell you than any philosopher’s word if you once listen to them and feel what they say. There is no reality within you that you do not understand if you open yourself to the feeling and the understanding. 

Each of you are more miraculous in this particular moment than any of you presently suppose, but you hide the miracles from yourselves. Intellectually you try to imagine what I am and yet you should be trying to feel what you are. And if I speak through this woman, then what should this tell you about the nature of human personality and since you all have human personalities at this point, what questions should this make you ask of yourselves. The answers are already given, you have only to ask the proper questions. 

The gods do lie sleeping in the grasses but their sleep is a very active sleep indeed, and their dreams have more vitality than you have ever imagined. And in the tip of your toe, in the most minute cell within your little toe, there is an energy and a knowledge and a power that you have not used and have not yet understood. And if All That Is knows what humility is, then it knows what it is to be the most minute cell within your little toe and it knows what it is to be the most powerful hydrogen molecule within the most gigantic star. And the same power is within each. 

Now you can all play around with your vocabulary, but what you know is not dependent upon words and do not allow them to limit you.

Wednesday, April 22, 2020

Session, January 12, 1971

Session, January 12, 1971

… (further comments on pulsations of matter and UFOs): One small note. In some respects these pulsations represent what happens in some of your flying saucer incidents, for you do not often have a vehicle such as the vehicle that you perceive, or think that you perceive. Now I am speaking of only certain cases. In these cases you have visitors from other areas of actuality, other realities. 

What happens is this—you have an attempt to exchange camouflage realities. The original beings entering your plane cannot appear within it as themselves, their atomic structure is not the same as yours. Distortions must therefore occur in order to make any contact possible and indeed, distortions must occur in order to make these contacts possible. So you are greeted with a certain set of sense data. You then try to figure out what is happening from the sense data that is presented to you, but the sense data, you see, means that the event is already to some extent distorted. The physical vehicles that are often perceived are your interpretation of the event that is actually occurring. 

Now, our friend back here (Ned) could well appear, you see, as a UFO in another aspect of reality, and frighten the inhabitants. Is it a bird, is it a plane? No, it is Super Ned. But you forget consciousness is the reality and the only true vehicle, and no part of your consciousness is imprisoned within you and it materializes in one aspect or another. Now, I use the word materializes because it makes sense to you but the word itself is distortive because it predisposes an appearance within matter materialization, and yet all realities, as you know, are not physical.

… deliberately. Now it is theoretically possible, for example, theoretically possible for him, or any of you, to disperse your consciousness and become a part of any object in the room or to fly apart, for example, disperse yourself out into space without leaving your sense of identity. Now this is not practical, in your terms, and yet many of you do it to gain refreshment while you are sleeping. 

Consciousness by its very characteristics carries a burden and the burden is perception. While you are conscious, you must perceive. Now this is the kind of consciousness of which you are used to thinking, for you cannot imagine consciousness without perception, in your terms, and yet consciousness can be vital and alive without perception as you think of it. And the last part of that sentence is important for our recorder over here. Sometimes, therefore, you find refreshment by dispersing your consciousness, as you think of it, and gain comfort and freedom by using instead, different characteristics of consciousness of which you are usually unaware. 

Now the atoms and molecules also, my dear scientific friend over there (Arnold), these atoms and molecules, minute as they may appear to you, also carry their burden of consciousness and a responsibility, yet there is a portion of consciousness that can joyfully perceive in a different manner that is not forced to perceive by its nature, but that can playfully perceive as a creative aspect of its being and without responsibility. 

Now our friend, poetic Ruburt, wrote a poem about the Gods in the Rafters that I enjoyed, although poetry has never been one of my particular joys. And, yet, in one manner of speaking, the very air about you sings with its own joyful consciousness and does not know the same kind of burden of consciousness that often oppresses you. You are so frightened of death, in your terms, that you dare not turn your consciousness off for one second for you fear that if you turn it off, indeed, who will be there to turn it back on again? 

([Arnold:] “This dispersion of consciousness, is it the whole entity or just this portion of it?”) 

It is the way that galaxies form. It is the way that the universe expands and it is the way that entities form. Now, that is your answer and chew that one over for awhile. 

I am pleased because you are thinking yourselves this evening, and that is what I want you to do. Ideas have no reality unless you yourselves make them your own. Make friends of them or enemies of them. Fight with them or love them, but use them and experience them and meet them not only with your intellect but with your feelings. 

(To Ned.) Now, when our friend over here thinks of nonintervals he disappears. A better student than that is hard to find. 

(Daniel spoke of relating to yourselves and other people.) 

Until you are honest with yourself and know yourself and become consciously aware of yourself you cannot honestly relate with others for you project upon them your own fears and your own prejudice, and you cannot afford to help them because you have too many insecurities within yourself. Now, you form the physical reality that you know, individually and en masse, and to change the world that you know you must change your thoughts and to change them you must become consciously aware of what you tell yourself is true every moment of the day for that is your reality, and that is what you project outward. 

([Daniel:] “It sounds like a lifelong task just to work out the first half of that before you would begin to relate to other people.”) 

It is, indeed. However, telepathy does exist. Others are aware, therefore, to a large extent of what you are thinking and feeling. 

([Daniel:] “The true feelings, despite what I might project consciously?”) 

Now the true feelings do not necessarily imply the violent or aggressive feelings. They also imply the feelings of love and acceptance that are buried beneath your own fears, and those that you are terrified of expressing in physical reality. 

([Daniel:] “I think I understand that all of these different levels of my consciousness then are being communicated, not only by me consciously, but also through telepathic communication.”)

That is true, and also that you are projecting your ideas outward into physical reality and then often behaving as if those ideas were not yours but belonged to another. And, therefore, it behooves you to understand and know what these ideas and emotions and feelings are and not to be frightened of them. And I hope you understand what I mean or I shall be forced to go into another analogy about a flower.

… Now you have some idea in your head that good is gentle and bad is violent and that no violence can be good and this is because in your mind, violence and destruction are the same thing. Now by this analogy, you see, the soft voice is the holy voice and the loud voice is the wicked voice and the firm step is the bad voice and the soft step is the good voice and a strong desire is the bad desire and a weak one the good one so that you become afraid of projecting ideas outward or desires outward, for in the back of your mind you think that what is powerful is evil and what is weak is good and must be protected and coddled and prayed for and begged for. 

Instead, I am telling you that the universe is a good universe. That it knows its own vitality and that vitality is within you. You can encourage it freely. It does not need to be coddled. Your own nature is a good nature and you can trust it. Because something is difficult does not mean it is good.

… When you do not know what else to do, relax and tell yourself that other portions of yourself do know what to do, and they will take over. Give yourself some rest and remind yourself that in many ways you are a very successful person as you are. Now success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth, it has to do with inner integrity, remember that.

Tuesday, April 21, 2020

Session, Jan 5, 1971 from Vol 3 of The Early Class Sessions

I have not posted to this BLOG for some time ... my apologies, but I've been working through a backlog of material that has piled up over the years and continues to pile up (no need for a bucket list!).

This morning I started reading volume 3 of The Early Class Sessions by Jane Roberts.  Here are extracts from the first session in the book ... it's a beauty!



(Following a discussion of reincarnation, probable selves and time. Also Theodore Muldoon told of returning to his Great Hall, of the new tapestry and the new pulsating sensation of feeling.) 

Now, ancient Rome exists and so does Egypt and Atlantis. You not only form the future, as you think of it, but you also form the past. Now, again, you have been told simple tales and they are delightful tales, but if you were not ready to hear more, you would not be in this room. 

Your personality is truly multidimensional, and after you have been here for some time, you will realize what the words multi-dimensional really mean, for they mean that you are not imprisoned within time, as you know it, in any way. And your reincarnated selves, or personalities, are not imprisoned in their time, as you think of time. There is a constant interchange going on between what you think of as your present self and what you think of as your past self and what you may think of as your future self. And if this were not the case, then I would not be speaking here for I am not Ruburt’s past self. 

Now, each personality is free and you are never imprisoned within time. Each personality is independent. Each personality, therefore, is its own man or, if Ruburt will forgive me, is its own woman. Time has open ends in all directions or such a thing as probabilities would not exist. Therefore, actions that you make now can help a so-called past personality. And a so-called future personality will step in and help you along your weary way, but also, your actions now can also affect the future personality as well as the past one. 

Now, you must try to stretch your imagination and to feel these realities because the intellect alone cannot comprehend them. Now, psychological time is your best method for perceiving these actualities. You can feel what you cannot necessarily describe verbally, and know through direct experience what even the physical brain cannot describe nor comprehend, for you are more than the physical brain that you have now. I am no poet but then thinking of one of Ruburt’s poems, then think of the brain, indeed, as a web you form about the inner self. A web works to help you manipulate in a world of space and time which is, indeed, as nebulous and as precarious, and as delicate, as any spider’s web, and hangs indeed in as precarious a balance. You form this and then perceive the world, but your viewpoint is very small and the garden you perceive very intimate, but within yourself you have far greater abilities of perception and you are not limited to Wednesday or Thursday. 

I want you to understand the nature of your inner self or, for your friend over here (to Joel Hess) the nature of your soul, for it is a focal point of reality from which other realities spring and not imprisoned in tiny boxes of days or weeks or months, or even of centuries. But you must open yourself to experience these realities in whatever way that you can.

(To Theodore) And sometime, for example, you will be able to travel through your tapestry and realize they are illustrations, as indeed you do, but realize it more vividly so you can experience the reality behind them. 

Now, I will let you all take a break and I will return in an unmoment. 

(During break Rachel Clayton asked if past, present and future are all one.) 

Now, he cannot answer you. We were originally a portion of the same entity. Now I evolved along my own ways and he evolved along his own ways. We are both, therefore, independent. We are ourselves. 

([Rachel:] “In other words, the entity has many parts all helping to evolve as one?”) 

Now, I evolved to form my own entity and he will, but he is not at that stage as yet, in your terms, and yet in another frame of reference he is, of course. He is also however, those portions of himself who are far less developed for they all exist as one and there are really no separations, and all the portions of himself that were less developed are aware of this correspondence. 

In your terms, and in your terms only, I could be referred to, and I told Ruburt this, as a sixth self of his in your future but this is only in your terms of reference and to get the idea across for he will not become what I am. That, you see, is impossible because I am myself and so verbally there are certain answers that cannot be given but must be intuitively understood. But the fact that I exist and can communicate should show you in simple terms, and in your terms of reference, that other “higher aspects” of your personality can help you out on occasion and do exist.

… Now, all of your so-called pasts exist within you now, and you can discover what they are and recapture your own memories, but you are not imprisoned in time unless you believe that you are, and there is nothing more important than belief. There is nothing that can free you more than belief, and there is nothing that can hold you in bondage more than belief. For if you believe you exist only within the context of this life, that you are born only to death and annihilation, then you will not use your freedoms in this existence, and you deny their abilities when they show themselves, and no one forces this bondage upon you but yourself. To understand your multidimensional self is to use it.

… And if there is any redemption, my good, holy friend, (to Joel) it takes place in each moment of time now in each day, not back so many centuries ago. 

(Rachel commented that Seth did not give many predictions for the future.) 

I am not cautious, I am simply realistic and when you understand the nature of reality then you realize that predictions of future events are basically meaningless. Now you can predict some events and they occur, but you create the future in every moment in your frame of reference, and time in your terms is plastic. Most predictions are made in a highly distorted fashion, and they lead the public astray. Not only that, but when the predictors fall flat on their faces it does not help “the Cause.” Reality does not exist in that fashion. You can tune in to certain probabilities and predict “that they will occur,” but free will always operates and no god in giant ivory figures says, this will happen February 15th at 8:05 and if no god predicts, then I do not see the point of doing so myself.

… ([Molly Pearson:] “Should we not believe in precognitive dreams?”) Many so-called precognitions are something else entirely different. Some, however, are entirely legitimate but oftentimes, the suggestion involved in a dream then brings about the event, and so it seems when the dream becomes real, that you have looked into a future that already existed. Instead, you have formed that event, but not realized the event had its origins at the time that you perceived it. 

Now, the question cannot be answered simply for there are many ramifications, but from this instant of reality, you form and change not only the future but the past. Now, in the operation of probabilities this has great significance for this means that you change and affect all events, and that your history books are a delightful fiction that tell you only your current ideas about the past. 

([Nadine Renard:] “How can I change my way of thinking to keep my family well instead of making them sick?”) 

Back here, we have a question, again, from the gallery. Realize you do not form events alone. You are involved in a cooperative venture. You are not, therefore, alone responsible for an event in that usually, others participate in its creation and for their own reasons.

Now the question cannot be answered simply in one evening, but each living consciousness has its own defense system and its own vitality, and you should trust your own. You do not trust your own. You cooperate together to form the physical reality that you know telepathically, through ways and means that are unknown to you. You weave these webs of psychic reality that then coalesce into physical reality. You do not weave them, necessarily alone, you weave them together. Your thoughts intertwine with the thoughts of others. You are responsible for your own thoughts. You need to learn the power of thought and emotion, but this should fill you with the joy of creativity and the possibility, not frighten you out of (words missing) of responsibility. Once you realize that your thoughts form reality then you are no longer slave to events. You simply have to learn the methods. 

([Nadine:] “But I don’t know how to learn them.”) 

You will learn them here, you will learn them through reading. You will learn them through listening to your own inner self. The methods have been known for centuries, not only for centuries as you know them, but for centuries as this earth existed, as you now know it. When the poles were reversed and when there were other stars in the sky and when the planets were not the planets that you know. The methods have always been known and now you take your break.

… In our sessions I have explained something that I have not mentioned in class and it is this— for every moment of time that you seem to exist in this universe, you do not exist in it. The atoms and molecules have a pulsating nature that you do not usually perceive so what seems to you to be a continuous atom or molecule is, indeed, a series of pulsations that you cannot keep track of. Physical matter is not permanent. You only perceive it as continuous. You cannot perceive the series of pulsations that make it up. Your perceptive mechanisms are not equipped to perceive it. 

Now, I am speaking to our friend over here (to Arnold Pearson, a scientist,) because he may, perhaps, have a dim comprehension of what I am trying to explain, because of his background, that many of you may not have. 

([Arnold:] “Are these pulses extremely fast in our terms of time?”) 

They are, indeed. You cannot conceivably perceive them. Now, in certain conditions, however, the inner self abandoning its usual reliance upon the physical senses is aware of these periods that would seem to you to be negations.

… In the same way, however, your consciousness fluctuates—it is here and then it is not here—but the physical self focuses upon only those moments when consciousness is focused in physical reality so your conscious self only has memory of the physical moments that it has known. But because consciousness fluctuates, other portions of yourself have memory of those times “when it is not focused in physical reality” and this is also a portion of your entire existence. This is not half as complicated as it sounds. Whether or not you remember your dreams, for example, a certain portion of you, under hypnosis, could remember every dream that you ever had in your life and so a certain portion of you remembers those nonmoments when you are not focused in physical reality, when your existence is in another dimension of actuality entirely and you were perceiving what I call, in your terms of reference, pardon me, nonintervals.

([Arnold:] “Is this nonmoment a moment of this existence?”) 

It is, indeed, in this existence and these nonmoments are moments in another dimension of reality. 

([Joel:] “Might this be compared to the rotating light in a lighthouse?”) 

It may, indeed, if you like the analogy. 

([Arnold:] “The analogy that I get is an electromagnetic wave, a carrier wave and it is rectified and the on moments are the positive pulses and the unmoments are the negative pulses.”) 

This is why I was talking to you. 

([Arnold:] “Are there more than two pulses?”) 

There are, indeed, and the whole self is aware of all of these realities. Now you know yourselves, with no unkindness meant, your own weaknesses and failures, so why should you suppose that the self that you know is the only self that you are. Surely, it has occurred to you that you have abilities that you are not using. Surely, it has occurred to you that there were other realities connected with your innermost existence that were not being expressed in the existence that you know of.

… (To Arnold.) I want you to think about the implications of what I have said concerning nonintervals and I like the term nonintervals, rather than nonmoments. 

([Joel:] “Would a noninterval be a positive interval to another aspect of our existence?”) 

It is, indeed, and they would not perceive your existence here, for them it would be a noninterval. 

([Joel:] “Could this be the key to the simultaneous existence of all of our lives, the key to nontime?”) 

It is, indeed, and some evening I will tell you that you had better change your entire conception of the word lives and this is the first hint I have given, either in our private sessions, or in this one, of some rather important material, but think of what you mean when you use the word life, or lives, and see how limited it really is. 

I am going to end our session but I have a comment. I have said this before. You are as dead now as you will ever be. Now, if you understand that remark and think about it, you will understand much that is behind what I have said this evening. 

([Arnold:] “Then we are as alive now as we have ever been?”) 

Indeed, except that in this focus in which you are now involved, you are not focusing on the full potential of your vitality. 

([Gert:] “Can we, and still remain in this aspect of existence?”) 

Using intervals and nonintervals. Now, our friend over here (Natalie) was using intervals and nonintervals beautifully earlier this evening, and to some extent, you use them in psy-time. 

([Theodore:] “That pulsation effect that I felt?”) 

Indeed, you experienced it, however, in a physical manner to make the idea plain to you. You imagined, for example, a heartbeat pulse of that nature simply to bring the idea home to you. You can skip between these beats, you see. Now, the beats altogether make a pattern simultaneously and the pattern is the entity.

… ([Rachel:] “We are using our existence as the dream?”) 

What I have said applies to what you just said. In one context, what you call physical reality, is a dream, but in a larger context, it is a dream that you have created and when you realize that you form it, then you come into the memory of your whole self. 

And when you realize that you form the events of your life, in the same way that you form the events of a dream, then you learn to grasp a hold of your entire consciousness and to take a hold of the life that is your own in whatever aspect it shows itself. Now, through all of this you must realize that you are not powerless and physical reality is a dream. You have created it, it was not thrust upon you. You can come to yourselves, therefore, through psy-time and remember also, that this dream is a dimension of experience and reality even if it is, in contrast, a dream in a higher level of reality in which you have your larger consciousness. And now I bid you good evening and I bid you pleasant dreams and when I tell you to remember your dreams I mean all of them.