Entity And Personality – Jane And Seth Example

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 444

Entity And Personality – Jane And Seth Example

For our friend Ruburt, in simple terms now.  He should know that the Jane self, the Jane personality, is not divided into highly specialized though effective units, as he has been wondering.

Jane does not call herself Jane as a writer; Ruburt on other occasions; Seth on other occasions, and so forth.  There would be nothing wrong in such a framework, providing the various subdivisions worked together well.  The Jane personality as a whole in that case would still be integrated, various portions of it simply designated for different kinds of work and ability.

Such an arrangement would indeed allow more freedom and creativity than usual.  However this is not the case.  There is instead not a working arrangement between various portions of one personality but a working arrangement among quite independent personalities.  They exist in various dimensions, and all of them have access to knowledge that Jane does not possess.

This is not meant as a slur upon Jane’s own excellent abilities.  On Jane’s part this would instead be an extension of her personality into areas far beyond the personality’s own capabilities at her time and in her space.

I am far more that Ruburt’s “best self”.  The emergence of the Ruburt episode leads me to speak to Jane in these terms so that there will be no misunderstanding.

Now.  Jane is correct in the idea she received from me this afternoon.  Ruburt does not have my knowledge.  I will always be your main communicator.  The other two personalities (Ruburt and Seth’s entity) have been involved at my request, for purposes having to do with our material and purposes.

Now apropos Fodor’s book (The Unaccountable, by Nandor Fodor), yes, Jane, there is a Seth and I was not born a psychic infant from your own personality.  Nor was I formed in such a manner.

Fodor’s idea is that personalities loosely in the same category as myself are indeed legitimate.  He nicely concludes that we have a right to existence, and even possess a certain consciousness.  However, he believed that we were divergent portions of a medium’s consciousness, that had gained relative independence.

Now this is a more respectable theory than many, but in my case it is not the correct one.  Again, the theories of personality that are taken for granted within your system still manage to confuse you.  It is a highly simplified version of the truth to say that I am a spirit, in those terms, though in those terms I am indeed.

I am utterly independent of Jane in any terms that have practical meaning in generally held concepts of personality.  I did not emerge from Ruburt’s personality nor person in any way.  I have lived often in physical existence.  But in larger terms, quite unacceptable at present to psychology, all of us are part of the same entity.

Now the same is true of Ruburt.  I have always addressed Jane as Ruburt, as you know.  Therefore the emergence of Ruburt confused Jane.  Quite without knowing, Jane has always been aware of Ruburt’s existence.  Now again, Ruburt is not part of Jane’s personality, in your terms, nor did he emerge from it.

Part of the difficulty lies in the use of words.  For analogy’s sake, then, consider the serial selves that we have sometimes discussed to make issues clearer.  I told you once that in those terms I would be considered as Jane’s number 6 or 7 self.

Ruburt then, would be considered Jane’s third self in approximate terms.  In the analogy these future selves would dwell in other dimensions, and usually self one, or Jane, would be relatively unaware of their existence or knowledge.  In this case self one is able to make such contacts however.

These selves are each completely independent from the other, making their own decisions as individuals, as in the most precise meaning you can apply to that term.  Following our analogy, Jane’s self 2 is in another position where contact is not possible at this time.

Now Ruburt, compared to Jane’s self 2 in these terms, is closer to Jane, so close that Jane has often accepted inspiration and ideas from Ruburt without realizing it.  Ruburt is the sum of the earthly personalities, intimately aware of all past lives.

He is temperamentally closer to physical existence.  He is very at home with Jane, you see.  Since I mentioned self 2, and again remember this is an analogy – self 2 has embarked upon a completely different adventure, in a different direction in another system.

There were certain capabilities and potentials, always present, that could not be fulfilled through physical reincarnations.  Probabilities that never became actualities through any life, a latent personality then that went its own way, and, quite literally was never a physical person.

These concepts can be grasped intuitively.  Unfortunately the words used to describe them are the same that must be used to describe currently held concepts.  In spiritualistic terms, Ruburt would be the guardian angel, you see.

I have always addressed Jane as Ruburt, since this is the last reincarnation physically.

Now.  As you know, and we will return now to the familiar name, Ruburt was experiencing a concept.  The unfamiliarity of the experience frightened him.

(See the 443^rd session.)  Rather naturally he placed emotional connotations, or superimposed those upon the experience.  He will not have such difficulties as he learns.  There was obviously no intent to discomfort him, and it was Jane who became alarmed.

Other concepts, as vividly felt you see, might not have bothered him, or he might have found them extremely supportive.  His own abilities were at a high level.  The circumstances were relatively good, though somewhat unstable; a period of three days was particularly beneficial however, which is why it appeared that so much was happening at once.

Jane should be able to contact Ruburt rather easily.  It was because of the conceptual experience in our session that Ruburt emerged in practical terms.  Again now, we are all independent with our own futures and pasts, in your terms.  We are all however connected …

Each of the personalities alive on your own earth are connected.  When such contacts occur, say between Ruburt and myself, then I draw upon those connections and activate certain common pathways.

We will have much more to say here at a later date.  Suffice it to say, using again our analogy, that although both self 6 and self one are independent, there are certain connections between them, and that these can be activated.

Suffice it to say also that in this analogy, self 6 is far more than simply a future self one.

In those terms then, in some inconceivable future, Jane will not become me, nor grow into me.  I am not the oak that the seed will become.  By then, in your terms, I will be far different than I am in your now.

Now.  Ruburt’s has been the voice, the inner voice, that often has given Jane inspiration.

Ruburt has always been highly involved with Jane’s writing, imparting intuitive truths, and Jane’s psychic abilities were precisely what made the inspiration possible.  You cannot separate creative and psychic ability.  When Jane seriously questioned her psychic nature, she was without realizing it questioning also the basis of her own creativity, and this interfered with the writing.

In this life Jane has always been able to utilize psychic abilities very well, without knowing it.  The basis of her work then was psychic.  Without this, the development into what you call mediumship would not have occurred.  In Jane’s case the personality was able to mature enough to consciously handle more and more data, to let further developments occur.  Otherwise, for example, I would only have been able to communicate to Jane in her dreams, or through Ruburt.

I am telling Jane therefore that the channel is open for creative inspiration from Ruburt, and the channel is clear.  Ruburt can also be counted upon when it is advantageous to interpret my material, though he could not himself originate it.

Now this information should be highly useful to Jane.  Ruburt has at times for that matter passed information from me to Jane.  Now it is Jane’s responsibility as a present physically oriented creature, to use the psychic and creative abilities that she has to their fullest, and as a legacy to help others.

She is far more than an open channel in other words.  I think perhaps we are coming very clear in this session, explaining in simple terms where all of us stand –

Now.  You, Joseph – I will speak to you as Ruburt.  You and Jane are a part of the same entity.  You know that you are not Jane.  Jane knows that she is not you.  In the same way I am not Jane, and Jane is not me.  You share some general joint memories with Jane, even before your acquaintanceship and despite the difference in your physical ages.  These having to do with national and cultural events, so they are common to you both.  This does not mean because you have some general common memories, that you and Jane are one individual.

Yet a psychologist would come to this conclusion if the same statement were made about myself and Jane.  Now we as portions of one entity, have certain memories that could be compared to the general cultural ones that you and Jane share, even before you met.  These however, that you have, are obviously felt by you both in an entirely different manner, because of your own different viewpoints and so forth.

The same is true of entities and various personalities that are allied with them.  Your own creativity, your painting, has always had a psychic basis, and in your case – back to our analogy – self 3 has helped you.  Self 2 followed the same path, relatively speaking, as Jane’s self 2.  

Now, self 3 has been your inner inspiration often, and it is possible that you will find little difficulty in subjectively contacting Joseph.