Analogies, Multidimensionality and Spacious Present

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 428

Use Of Analogies

Now it is important that you realize that we have used analogies rather freely in our last two sessions, for there was no other way to give you any clear concept of the material I wished to present.

Your physical brains simply cannot handle certain kinds of information.  Again, the neurological structure has much to do with this.  You are used to handling certain kinds of concepts, and interpreting them in thus-and-thus fashion, that the pathways for more complicated data simply do not as yet exist in physical terms.

They would emerge.  The neurological structures would create new pathways to accommodate such knowledge when the knowledge itself was sought for.  The brain structures of your race therefore grew more complicated as the inner knowledge sought to make itself known to the physical creature.

I am speaking now in terms of evolution.  The material in the last two sessions was given to you therefore in terms that you could understand.  Multidimensional concepts cannot be received, nor interpreted, at this point by the physical brain.  The mind and the inner self can become aware of such concepts.

Assistance From Other Dimensions

…  (“What frameworks, left behind by the traveling self A can be used by others?”)

You know that a star may light a dark universe, and help a wayfarer on his way.  It will serve a purpose and be a reality in your time.  In like manner can personality structures be of assistance and be realities to you within your time, although they have long since entered other dimensions.

That is as close as I can come to answering the question.

There is one difference of course.  The star does not know upon whom its light falls.  It is blind to the landscape that it brightens.  It cannot see that which it illuminates.  In the case of these psychological structures however, because of the multidimensional aspects, there is understanding and purpose.  A portion of that kind of personality structure knows well that while its main focus of consciousness has gone into other dimensions, it will nevertheless be perceived by others at any given point.

It allows the light of its personality to shine purposely down those paths from which it has come, in order to help others who will follow; but the light is the light of vitality, and carries with it traces of the personality who lets it shine.

Mentally and emotionally such a personality may even travel down to help another.  This is a very simplified explanation, for you are not ready to study the reality of multidimensional personality thoroughly.  As thoughts set up traces and new patterns, new electrical pathways in the physical brain, it then becomes easier for the brain to entertain these habitual lines of thought.

It is easier then for similar thoughts to follow.  So in a larger sense, as personalities leave your system, as they travel into other dimensions, they also set up electrical pathways, and each personality who does so makes those paths easier for others.

Now because the spacious present exists, in other terms, these selves are actually in all places at one time.  As you seem to approach different dimensions however, then you seem to approach a personality who exists at the time of your perception of him.

Progression And Purpose In The Spacious Present

This would seem to deny the idea of progression, since I tell you that all portions or all guises, or all aspects and all levels, of any given personality exist at once.  The immediately conscious selves however do progress in their realization.  It is not enough that the inner self knows.  The various immediately conscious portions of personality evolve and change as they recognize these truths.

They come to understand then their basic oneness, while still retaining their own identity, since change is never still.  “By the time” this realization comes, inner value fulfillment has already created new realities.  The answer, as closely as I can approximate it for you, is this: the purpose is being.  This is something different than your idea of brute survival.

Life and consciousness, without the means to express them, are not meaningless, for life and consciousness have their own purposes; and of these purposes I am not prepared now to tell you.

You must realize, again, that nothing is static, psychological activity least of all.

In your state of development you cannot easily understand the meaning of the word “purpose”, for to you the term itself implies an eventual rigidity, a goal with an end, a progression, literally, toward a nothingness that it would have to follow once a goal in those terms was achieved.

The word purpose implies limited dimension.  Value fulfillment has no such implications, and the purposes of which I have spoken are multidimensional.  This is all I will tell you now in that regard.

One aside here: while I am myself as you know me, I am also the other personality that sometimes speaks.  This does not mean that what I am as you know me, ends, or is finished, in what he is.

I am overjoyed to be the self that you know, and I do indeed take pleasure in that existence, and in meeting its responsibilities.  The other personality, which is also myself, has a warm spot in its heart for me, though again, he would not put it in those terms.  He enjoys his own existence.

Both of us are obviously then portions of a larger self, and manifestations of it, but one does not end in the other, and one’s purpose is not to become the other.  We all, quite simply, are.  Keep this sort of thin in mind when you think in terms of purposes.  For the word can distract you, and lead you into narrowing concepts.

All That Is And Primal Creation

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 427

All That Is And Primal Creation

Now.  Desire, wish and expectation rule all actions, and are the basis for all realities.

Within All That Is, then the wish, desire and expectation of creativity existed before all other actuality.  Some of this discussion is bound to be distorted, because I must explain it to you in terms of time, as you understand it.

So I will speak, for your benefit, of some indescribably distant past, in which these events occurred.  The strength and vitality of these desires and expectations, in your terms then, became so insupportable that All That Is was driven to find the means to produce them.

Now when I say there was a state of nonbeing, and yet speak of All That Was, existing simultaneously in that state, I mean that All That Is did exist, itself, obviously in a state of being, but in a state in which it could not find expression for its own being.  This was the state of agony of which I spoke.  Yet it is doubtful that without this “period” of contracted yearning, that All That Is could concentrate its energy sufficiently enough to create the realities that existed in probable suspension within it.

The agony itself and the stupendous desire to create represented its proof of its own reality.  The feelings in other words were adequate proof to All That Is that it was.

At first, in your terms, all of probable reality existed as nebulous dreams within consciousness of All That Is.  Later the unspecified nature of these “dreams” grew more particular and vivid.  The dreams became recognizable one from the other, until they drew the conscious notice of All That Is.  And with curiosity and yearning, All That Is paid more and more attention to his own dreams.

He then purposely gave these more and more detail, and yearned toward this diversity and grew to love that which was not as yet created from himself.  He gave consciousness and imagination to individuals while they still were but within his dreams.  They also then yearned to be actual, so there was this final breaking-through that was still necessary.

Potential individuals in your terms therefore had consciousness before the beginning, or any beginning, as you know it.  They clamored to be released into actuality, and All That Is, in unspeakable sympathy, sought within himself for the means.

In his massive imagination, he understood the cosmic multiplication of consciousness that could not occur within that framework.  Actuality was a necessity if these probabilities were to be given birth.  He saw then an infinity of probable, conscious individuals, and foresaw all possible developments, but they were locked within him unless he found the means.

This was indeed in your terms a primary cosmic dilemma, and one with which he wrestled, until All That He Was was completely involved and enveloped within that cosmic problem.

Now had he not solved it, All That Is in ways that cannot be understood, would have faced insanity, and there would have been literally a reality without reason, and a universe run wild.

The pressure, in one way, came from two sources; from the conscious but still probable individual selves who found themselves alive in a God’s dream, and from the God who yearned to release them.  On the other hand you could say that the pressure existed simply on the part of the God, since the creation existed within his dream.  But in these terms such tremendous power resides in such primary pyramid gestalts that even their dreams are endowed with vitality and reality.

This then is the dilemma of any primary pyramid gestalt.  He creates reality, period.  Now.  He also recognized within each consciousness massive potential that existed.  The means then came to him.  He must release the creatures and the probabilities from his dream.

To do so would give them actuality.  However it also meant “losing” a portion of his own consciousness, for it was within that portion that they were held in bondage.  All That Is had to let go.  While he thought of these individuals as his creations, he held them as part of himself and refused their actuality.

To let them go was to lose that portion of himself that had created them.  Already he could scarcely keep up with the myriad probabilities that began to emerge from each separate consciousness.  With love and longing, he let go that portion of himself, and they were free.  The psychic energy exploded in a flash of creation.

All That Is therefore “lost” a portion of itself in that creative endeavor.  Yet all individuals remember their source, and now dream of All That Is, as All That Is once dreamed of them.  And they yearn toward that immense source, and yet to set it free, to give it actuality through their own creations.

The motivating force is still All That Is, but the individuality is no illusion.  Now in this same way do you give freedom to the personality fragments within your own dreams, and for the same reason.  And you create for the same reason, and within all of you is the memory of that primal agony – that urge to create and free all probable consciousnesses into actuality.

The session needs reading many times, for there are implications not at first obvious.

…  The material I am giving you now is an offshoot from the material on time that you requested, that will shortly return to that subject, and the electrical-reality material will follow in there naturally.

Time, All That Is, and Existence

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 426

Time (3)

Your idea of space and time then is definitely determined by your neurological structure.

The camouflage is so craftily executed and created, of course, by the inner self, that you must of necessity focus your attention in the physical reality which has been created.  The psychedelic drugs alter the neurological inner workings, and therefore can give some slight glimpses into other realities.

The realities, of course, exist whether or not you perceive them.  Actually “time”, in quotes, exists as the pulses leap the nerve ends.  It is not a simultaneous procedure.  You must then experience lapses.  Past, present and future appear highly convincing and logical when there must be a lapse of time between each perceived experience.

There is no such lapse in many other personality structures.  Events, many events, are simultaneously perceived.  Reactions are also nearly instantaneous in your terms.  Growth and challenge is provided not in terms of achievement or development in time, but instead in terms of intensities.  Such a personality is able, in your terms, not only to react and appreciate event A, say, in your present time, but also to experience and understand event A in all of its ramifications, and all of its probabilities.

Now that is the challenge and the ideal, and it is met to varying degrees by personalities at various stages of development.  Obviously such personalities need far more than the neurological systems with which you are presently equipped.  For such systems such experience is literally impossible.  Now your neurological system is physical but it is based upon your own inner capabilities as of, quote, “now”.

It is a materialization of an inner framework, an inner psychic framework.  Many other personality structures do not need a materialized perceptive framework, such as this, but an inner psychic organization is always present.  It also represents the personality’s present capabilities.

Now your time, your past, present and future, as you conceive of them, would be experienced entirely as present to many of these other personality structures.  However your past, present and future would be experienced entirely and completely as past, to still other personality structures.

You may consider past, present and future then as a single-line delineation of experience in your terms, the line however continuing indefinitely.  Other personality structures from other dimensions could theoretically then observe it from an infinity of viewpoints.  However there is far more than this.  The single line is merely the surface thread along which you seem to travel.  It is all of you that you perceive, so when you envision other dimensions you are forced to think in terms of observers far above the thread, looking down at it from any given viewpoint.

In actuality, following the image through, and strictly as an analogy, there would also be an infinite number of threads, both above and below your own, all part of one inconceivably miraculous web-work.  Yet each thread itself would not be one-dimensional, but of many dimensions, and conceivably, if you knew how, there would be ways of leaping from one thread to the other.  You would not therefore be forced to follow any particular thread in a single-line fashion.

Now there are personalities developed enough to do this.  And each act of leaping, so to speak, forms a new thread.  Now following through with our analogy, imagine yourself A.  We will start you off in a physical reality at thread A, though you have already traversed many other threads to get where you are.  We are merely beginning with thread A since this is your present situation.

Now.  Any such self A would, without understanding or shortcuts, development, or even average progression, would travel thread A along the narrow line toward infinity.  At some point however thread A would turn into thread B.  In the same manner at some point thread B would turn into C and so forth.

At some inconceivable point all of the threads would be in turn traversed.  Self A, now on thread A, would not be aware in his present, of the quote “future” selves on the other threads.  Only by meeting one of these other selves however can he become aware of the nature of this strange structure through which he is traveling.

There is however a self who has already traveled these routes, of whom these other selves are but part.  This self, in dreams and dissociated conditions, communicates with these various quote “ascending” selves.  But as the self grows in value fulfillment, he can become aware of these other travelers on other threads, who might seem to him to be future selves.

“Later”, in quotes, he learns to become one or the other of those quote “future” selves by leapfrogging, so to speak, from one thread to the other.

Now all of this sounds complicated, but only because we must deal in words.  Intuitively, I hope, you will be able to understand it.  In the meantime the overall self is forming new threads of activity, you see.  The frameworks that it leaves behind can be used by others.

All That Is And Existence

The purpose is, quite simply, being, as opposed to not being.  I am telling you that I know, and there is much I do not know.  I know that help must be given, one to the other, and that extension and expansion are aids to being.

Now.  There is, and this will certainly seem a contradiction in terms, there is nonbeing.  It is a state, not of nothingness in your terms, but a state in which probabilities and possibilities are known, anticipated, but blocked from all expression.

Dimly, through what you would call a history, hardly remembered, there was such a state.  It was a state of agony in which the powers of creativity and existence were known, but the ways to produce them were not known.

This is the lesson that All That Is had to learn, and that could not be taught.  This is the agony from which creativity originally was drawn, and its reflection is still seen.

All That Is, in your terms, retains a memory of that state, and it serves as a constant impetus toward renewed creativity.

Each self, as a part of All That Is, therefore also retains memory of that state.  It is for this reason that each portion of All That Is, each most minute consciousness, is endowed with the impetus toward survival, change, development and creativity.  It is not enough that All That Is, as a primary consciousness-gestalt, desires further being, but, that every portion of it also carry this determination.

Yet the agony itself was used as a means, and the agony itself served as an impetus, strong enough finally so that All That Is initiated within itself the means to be.

All That Is therefore knows the agony of what you would call not being.

Not being, in other terms, is impossible.  It is being without the means of expressing being.  Now, every portion of consciousness is imbued with innate knowledge towards the means of expression and creativity.  If, and this is impossible, all portions but the most minute last unit of All That Is were destroyed, All That Is could still continue, for within the smallest portion is the innate knowledge of the whole.

All That Is protects itself therefore, and all that it has, and is, and will create.

When I speak of All That Is, you must understand my position within it.  All That Is knows no other.  This does not mean that there may not be more to know.  It does not mean, and here words quite fail us, it does not mean that All That Is, in any terms that we can conceive of, may not be limited.  It knows of no other.

It does not know whether or not others like it may exist.  It is not aware of them if they do exist.  It is constantly searching.  It knows that something existed before it own primary dilemma, when it could not express itself.

It is then conceivable that it has itself evolved, in your terms, so long ago that it has forgotten its origin, that it has developed from still another primary which has, in your terms, since gone its own way.  So there are answers that I cannot give you, for they are not anywhere known in the system in which we have our existence.

We do know that within this system, this overall system now, of our All That Is, that creation continues and developments are never still.  Therefore we can deduce that on still other levels of which we are unaware, the same is true.

This first state of agonized search for expression may have represented birth throes of All That Is as we know it.  There existed, and clearly, the possibilities of creation as we know it, but the means were not known.  Pretend then that you possessed within yourself the knowledge, the sight, of all the world’s masterpieces in sculpture and art, that they throbbed and pulsed as realities within you, but that you had no physical apparatus, no knowledge of how to achieve it; that there was neither rock, nor pigment, nor source of any of these, and you ached with the yearning to produce them – and this, on an infinitesimally small scale, will perhaps give you, as an artist, some idea of the agony and impetus that was felt.

And each self is endowed with the agony and the impetus, for it is a fabric from which All That Is made itself, and all that you know.  Perhaps now you can understand why it is so difficult to try to explain matters to you in terms that you can understand.

All That Is loves all that it has created, down to the least, for it realizes the dearness, and the uniqueness of each consciousness which had been wrest from such a state and at such a price; and it is triumphant and joyful at each new development taken by each consciousness, for this is an added triumph against that first state, and an added security against that first state, and it revels and takes joy in the slightest creative act of each of its issue.

It, of itself and from that state, has given life to infinities of possibilities.  From its agony it found the way to burst forth in freedom, through expression, and in doing so gave existence to individualized consciousness that forever continues that process.  Therefore it is rightly jubilant.

These connections between you therefore and All That Is can never be severed, and its awareness is indeed so delicate and focused that its attention is directed with a prime creator’s love to each consciousness.

I have been sent to help you, and others have been sent through the centuries of your time, for as you develop you also form new dimensions and you will help others.

Time is the pattern of perception

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 424

Time Is The Pattern Of Perception

Now.  Time is the pattern of perception.  It is highly personal, and has no meaning without personal experience.  To you, then, time is the result of your perceiving mechanisms.  You know the senses force you to perceive experience in certain pattern.  Because I have also followed this particular reality, it is meaningful, for me, and I can understand it.

There are personalities however to whom it is highly alien.  It must be interpreted.  Using concepts, I can relate my understanding of your time pattern to others clairvoyantly.  Other portions of my entity are aware of it, by a process of mental osmosis, so to speak.

Those portions of my entity that have not had physical experience, however, do not operate within that time system, at any time, if you will excuse the pun.  It is not beyond them.  They simply have not chosen the particular experience, nor delved into that moment point.

Now words belong to your particular time system.  Without it, they are not needed.  Therefore communication is dependent upon your time system.  The inner self is not so limited, as you know, and inner communications continue always beneath words.  Word structures and language itself bears a unique mathematical precision.  The placement of emphasis, the vowels and consonants, the length of time to utter them, all of these issues are intimately connected with your own nervous systems, and with the intervals inherent within your time system, between thought and action.

There are unities, barely contemplated, then, between language, exterior communication, the physical nervous system, and time or your idea of it.  These merge so beautifully that they all serve to form a seemingly perfect picture of physical reality.  The camouflage would not be effective were it less perfect.

You are beginning to perceive the holes in the camouflage, for I have pointed them out to you.  They are doorways into inner realities, and other realities, as are these sessions.  Those who have survived physical death in your terms, must use words in their communications, for you do not understand wordless communications.  They themselves are far freer, however.

We should perhaps differentiate between thought words and speech, or spoken words.  Thought words are used by many for some interval.  I am speaking of those who have survived death in your terms.  They do not need the spoken word.  Even thought communication however need not necessarily follow the form of words.  There can be thought without words, in other words.

For simplicity’s sake, let us say that there is a process of change.  Those alive in your terms rely at least outwardly on the spoken word.  Those who have left and survive, use thought words but do not need to speak, though they may.  As proficiency grows and as the inner senses are more fully used, the necessity for even thought words vanishes.

Several other methods of communication occur.  They do not spring from nowhere.  You use them beneath conscious level to some degree now.  They grow into prominence.  Images are widely used, but these images would be fourth-dimensional to your way of thinking.  They are far from flat.  They have a reality, and these are, what you have read, referred to as thoughtforms.

Feelings become far more vivid, pulsating and alive, also.  You experience these more directly, and yet conversely enough you do not identify with them falsely, as is often the case in your present situation.  You can experience feelings more vividly and powerfully because you realize that they are not you, and your identity cannot be swept aside by them.

You have no fear of them.  All of this is a progression, I will say for simplicity’s sake.  Now in such an environment, time as you know it does not exist.  This is one of the reasons why some projections are so confusing, particularly when the ego is taken along for the ride.  It is used to past, present and future, kept nicely apart.

I am giving you this as preliminary material, for you have asked how my big brother experiences time.