Pure Knowledge, More From Seth Two

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 8, Session 408

Knowledge In Its Pure Form

The knowledge that we have, myself and others like me, would be incomprehensible to you in its pure form.

Translations are therefore necessary, and in many respects the distortions that will appear of necessity in any such translation are requirements; what might be termed distortion from pure knowledge, you see, is often the result of the translations without which you could not receive nor understand the material.

Beyond this however, some channels are more distortive than others, and we hope to keep this channel as undistorted as possible.  As you understand, pure knowledge cannot be put into words, and for that matter it exists beyond your usual concept of thoughts.

What you call thinking is a dim shadow of true comprehension.  This involves being united with knowledge in a way you cannot now appreciate.  This kind of comprehension automatically puts you out of self-structures as you think of them, but does not deny identity.  Since you are involved with self-structures as you think of them then knowledge must be given in such a way that it affects the structure as you know it.

Knowledge in your terms does change your own physical structure, merging with the physical stuff of your image, but your ego remains relatively detached from it, you see.  There is a psychic merging with knowledge.  To you, knowledge in the abstract means little.  There is a merging with concepts, however.  This you can understand.

Self-Structures And Identity

Now you are merged with a concept, now, of what you are.  So merged that you cannot see your way clearly out of the concept, nor easily imagine reality from any other viewpoint but the self-structure that you presently imagine yourself to be.  Another part of your whole identity is quite aware that you are delving into one concept of yourself.  To delve into it, you gladly and willingly momentarily forget the greater portions of yourself.  You experience the concept fully.  Your prime identity is quite aware of other self-concepts that are also being experienced.

Self-structures and identities are not the same.  Identity requires no structure.  Identity knows, and knows that it knows.  Self-structures know and do not know that they know.  Self-structures are a part of identity.  Identities can contain pure knowledge without translation, and use it to seed various existences and to form realities.  They do this consciously in your terms.  They are far more conscious than you can presently imagine.

Seth Two

You are going beyond Seth, to a part of Seth you do not know.

Seth was all of myself that could come through to you.  You are in contact with a larger portion of Seth’s reality.  You are learning that self-structures are transparent.  Any contradictions are merely the result of interpretations.  Your first Seth is independent, and I am independent.  Because he is a part of my reality does not mean that he is less an individual.  My reality simply includes more, now, within your particular coordinates; and that last is important.

He is another aspect of me while being himself.  In your terms, I am a guide he also follows.  He is much more aware of our relationship however than you are of your relationship to him.  Your time is required …  These communications change me as they change you, for they are action on both of our parts.  Your egos are being well educated, since they are aware of the sessions, and this will be of great benefit to you when other coordinates come into your perception.

Here knowledge is sifted through self-structures.  Pure knowledge is not impersonal.  To the contrary, it is meaningless unless it is experienced intimately within every part of an identity.  But to you it would seem impersonal.

I seem less of a personality to you than the Seth that you knew, because my personality exists in quite different terms.  To me, a thought is as real as a day to you.  A day that can be experienced in a variety of ways, and that can be viewed from literally endless perspectives.

In your terms, I am very ancient, and yet what I am is always new.  Your early Seth can explain this to you more clearly than I.

In the most simple of terms, we’re always helping you.

On the other hand, you are part of what we are.  Inspiration always springs from beyond your system, and not within it.  It always springs from channels that are available to you, and if it is, again, distorted, without the distortions you could not use the inspirations.

I will try in your future to explain basic systems of co-ordinates so that you will have some conception of how all creative and inspirational ideas always appear within your system; for only one portion of you appears isolated within it.

You have channels open to those various sources that you have forgotten.  These provide the motive power that moves your civilizations.  These coordinates leave traces within your system.  There are ways for you to tell the channels are clear.  There are ways to open the channels from your end, and we will discuss them.

Time, your time, is required again.

Now the pyramid or cone structure Ruburt senses is his symbolic way of feeling, in your terms, the approach of certain coordinates.  These are projected into your system and opened.  Instead of saying, “I will meet you at the corner of Water and Walnut”, for example, I meet you within certain precise coordinates.

These are fitted into your physical space structure, though I am not as aware of it as your first Seth.  I speak from a distance.  He comes into your room with every reality but the physical.

Now you may end the session.  If you feel lonely you may speak with Seth the earlier, if you wish.

(“Yes, by all means.  Are you there, Seth?”)

Seth One

Good evening. 

I see you have received some surprise.

My big brother has come to get into the act.  That is all right, and certainly I have hinted at this development in past material – opaquely.

Needless to say, I have not missed a session with you.  It may surprise you that I can remain silent, but it is one of my virtues with which you were not familiar.

You are like magicians, indeed, pulling white rabbits out of hats.

I am speaking with you this evening so that you realize I am hardly deserting you.  I have told you I am a teacher, and I have let the principal in the door.  But I will hold my own classes.

It is quite true in important respects, however, that the two of us are one.  This comes as no surprise to me.  There is much regarding the nature of time that I have not given you yet, and it will make this more understandable.

Even so poor a small fish as I, am not bound by your time, and can be quite aware of what would seem to be future branches and developments that will intimately concern my own identity.

On the one hand, in your terms, I have not reached that point yet.  I am not your Seth Two yet.  I am aware of him.  I will maintain myself as you know me now at the same time, even in your terms, then.

Or I would not be speaking to you now.  Our friend, our dear bewildered Ruburt, has had a time of it, and I suggest we end the session.