Physical Reality and Illusion

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 443

Seth Two On Physical Reality And Illusion

You are like children, in your terms, with a game, and you think that the game is played by everyone.  Physical life is not the rule.  Identity and consciousness existed long before your earth was formed.

You see physical bodies and suppose that any personality must appear in physical terms.  None of you are physical; that which is enduring is not physical.  In that respect at least you are no different than I.  Consciousness is the force behind matter, and it forms many other realities beside the physical one.  It is only because your own viewpoint is presently so limited that it seems to you that physical reality is the rule and the mode and the purpose of existence.

The source and power of your consciousness is not and has never been physical, and where I am many are not even aware that such a physical system exists.  You have chosen your own illusion, and so you must accept it, and from its viewpoint must you try to understand the realities that exist beyond it.

There are many illusions, but the illusions are also real since they are created and since they exist.  Yours is simply not one that I have pursued, and one of the purposes of any appearance at these sessions is to acquaint the one you call Ruburt with inner travel, for he must leave the system as you know it, and in doing so set up habits and paths that can be used to advantage.

The situation is not quite stable at this point however.  Those where I am have not been acquainted with your system directly.  We have not been a part of it, though some of us have watched its developments, and interacted within it in other ways.

We have helped nurse it along by our energy.  Others like yourself have introduced various concepts to it and been more directly involved.  We were long before your beginning in physical terms …

Seth One On Our Fixation On The Illusion Of Physical Reality

Now that big brother has had his say, I will bring our Ruburt back to you, and let you take a break.  He will be quite here, very shortly.

You have been so immersed in physical reality through reincarnations, that even your dreams involve you with objects; and even in your dreams you hardly escape the physical units that you have constructed.

It is highly difficult for you to perceive any knowledge or reality unless it is interpreted in physical terms, even though such interpretation highly distorts the information itself.  When you allow yourselves freedom in the dream state, when you allow yourself direct experience of reality, when you do not remember it.

In dreams you continue to create pseudo-objects; even in your travels into experiences in other fields of reality, you continue to insist upon the paraphernalia of objectivity until it imprisons you, and you cannot see beyond it.

The inner portions of your own identity and reality are not known to you, for you cannot objectify them and therefore you do not perceive them.  So much of your energy is used in these productions that you cannot afford to perceive any realities except your own.  Like children playing with blocks your focus of attention is upon physical blocks.

Other shapes and forms that you could perceive, you do not; even in explaining other realities to you I must use word shapes and forms, or you would not understand what I mean.

You have your mathematics from us.  You have a shadow of mathematics, for here again you have insisted upon hemming in realities, of applying larger elements of thought to your blocks.  Your idea of progress is building bigger blocks, like children sitting upon the floor.  Yet none of us would think of kicking aside your block constructions in ire, or telling you to put aside children’s toys, though one day you shall do so.

Later in your time all of you will look down into the physical system like giants peering through small windows at the others now in your position, and smile.  But you will not want to stay, nor crawl through the small enclosures, nor have we any intentions of doing so.

In all ways we protect all such systems.  We do not have to be aware of them.  Our basic and ancient knowledge and energy automatically reaches out to nourish all systems that grow –

(... Jane suddenly cried out and began to shake her head violently from side to side as she sat in her rocker.  Her movements were so violent I feared she would tip over in the chair.  John jumped up to steady her from her right.  A glass of beer hit the floor.  A second later I was at her left side, having to go around the coffee table to reach her.

(Jane’s eyes had been closed, and remained so.  Oddly enough her glasses were on; nor did she lose them in the violent shaking.  She was quiet now but it took some minutes before John and I could coax her out of trance.  Needless to state the sudden end and reaction had been most startling to us.  When her movements started I called loudly to her but did not get through.

(When she could finally talk Jane revealed that she had been experiencing a concept to accompany the personality’s words; this she has done before when speaking for Seth’s entity, and we have been told before that this is one of the reasons or purposes for her speaking for this new personality.  But this one was a rough trip, Jane said.  This experience, Jane said, “wasn’t great”.

(It wasn’t clear, Jane said, extremely difficult to put into words, but she found while speaking the appropriate lines that she was a giant, looking at John and me in the room, although her eyes were closed.  She then experienced a tremendous feeling of growth.  She felt her “organs growing”, along with John and me and everything in the room.  Everything maintained its relative scale, but there was this enormous feeling of growth, as though each of us grew to the size of elephants, Jane said.

("I don't know whether he left me or not", she said, "but suddenly I was me and all this was going on.  It was fantastic.  I was so completely enveloped by it … I can’t describe it.  I was so aware of everything in the room, but my eyes were closed all the time.  It wasn’t great, this experience.”

(I hoped this meant the end of the session, but after a while it was obvious that Jane wanted to continue, or at least was willing to, in spite of the upsetting experience.  I tried to talk her out of it.  Her eyes kept closing.  Finally she decided to continue.

(“I’m on my way to the other guy,” she said.  “I just passed Seth and he joked with me – something about a massive encounter.”

(“Why don’t you just back down?” I asked.

(I don’t know how to.”)

Seth Two Continues

The blocks of physical reality appear very real to you when you dwell within their perspective.

Your Ruburt experienced a transmigration of systems.  It was not meant to be unpleasant.  This was his subjective interpretation.  First he was involved in a microscopic adventure.  Consciousness does not take up space.  You must understand this.  He then entered your own system of physical blocks, and by contrast that system then appeared huge and monstrous.

When we make contact his personality and consciousness in concentrated form makes its journey, in your terms like a speck in space, the consciousness reduced to its essence, and from this experience we then let him fall back into the physical system.  Children’s blocks then become massive by contrast.  It was an experience in concepts, and therefore an advance on your parts.