Seth Two On Identity And Time

Seth Early Sessions, Vol 9, Session 431

Seth Two On Identity And Time

Let us discuss numbers in terms of identities.

This is in connection with the lectures you are being given having to do with time and identity.  Though numbers are abstract they can serve our purposes well here.  One number, for example 7, can be considered itself as an identity.  Now, it may become a portion of other numbers in infinite varieties, and yet it is always itself.

It may be a portion of many groupings yet still retain itself.  Three and four will add to seven, yet three and four are their identities and will always be so in your terms.  The numbers on the other side of zero, the minus numbers, represent identity in that time of relative nonbeing.  The paradox is that the numbers therefore cannot be conceived of as not being, so the minus sign is used.

The unit of the numbers alone however signifies their existence.  Now, mathematics is not nearly understood within your system.  A fourth and fifth-dimensional mathematics cannot be initiated from within inside your own system.

It is as if each number represents not only the number itself, not only a unit to be added, subtracted, multiplied or divided, but also as if each number had infinite varieties of intensities that you do not perceive.  I am not talking of smaller units within that number, but of the nature of the unit itself.

These multidimensional intensities would be considered as inherent qualities belonging to each number.  They would represent other dimensional realities inherent in the number itself, since numbers are only symbols they would therefore represent other dimensional realities inherent in the unit for which the number stood.

As one number quite simply can be added to another without denying the validity of either number, nor the individuality of either number, so a different kind of grouping takes place involving mathematical manipulations of these other intensities that reside within the number units.

In no way does this alter the individual character of any unit number.  Since we are involved in this discussion I will give you a simple analogy, and please understand that it is an analogy, meant only to simplify the idea.

Pretend than that behind or within but unseen by you, behind or within the number 1, for example, there are an infinite number of other 1’s, lined up so to speak behind the one that you see.  The one that you see is the self that you see or recognize within your system.  The 1’s behind are not serial, nor identical, nor duplicates.

They are all however variations, but neither one is patterned upon any other.  Each number in our original quote “row” that you see has therefore within it these other individual units.

Behind 1 then imagine the infinite other 1’s, literally for the analogy’s sake one behind the other.  Now this long line of 1’s may seem to stretch out indefinitely, or may seem to snap together into one.  There is expansion and contraction within this simple number 1 then, with any number or unit.

This sort of expansion and contraction has nothing to do with addition or subtraction, multiplication or division; but it is an inherent quality of all units.

Now imagine number 2 placed beside number 1, number 2 also having behind it infinite variations.  These variations incidentally should be thought of in terms of intensities.  The intensities are themselves individual.  Take the two main numbers, 1 and 2; as they stand beside themselves they become 12, and yet the 1 and 2 remain unchanged.

In the same manner any of the unit intensities behind each number may change position while still remaining itself, and retaining its individuality as a unit.  If you use x and y rather than 1 and 2, basically the same is true.  Now this analogy applies to identity.  You are in a world where you see one particular intensity unit – belonging to say number 1.

You do not perceive the other intensity units to which it belongs.  You perceive – in other terms – the 1, say, as a flat line on a flat surface, and are unable to imagine the existence, the intensity, within that simple unit number.

I am trying to tell you that numbers are only symbols for your kind of reality.

They are not multidimensional symbols.  Your physicists can theorize to a certain point.  The blockage occurs because the symbols used to portray reality are themselves limited by the reality that you know.  They are like keys that will only fit your own doors.  You can open endless doors with them, but only doors within your own system.

For this reason your ideas of time and identity remain limited.  Now.  Other dimensional realities do appear within your system but you do not recognize them.  We can acquaint you with some of these.  We can tell you what they appear like within your own reality.

You can learn to experience some of these, and the experience of no-time is a particular facet to which I am referring.  The experience itself will automatically to some extent allow you to understand the dimensions of your own identity, but old familiar props will not be available.

One of us will give you directions shortly, and they should be followed when you are ready, without any changes made on your part.  You will to some small extent at least experience for yourself what it is like to be a personality outside the context of time as you know it.

This is the best learning process.  To tell you this was the purpose of the session.  We will now close it.