Session 578

Questions and Answers

Seth Speaks, Session 578

(“Was the statement given by Jane, while speaking for you, correct, that there have been millions of Speakers?  Or was that distorted?”  See the 568^th session, in Chapter Seventeen.)

It was not distorted.  The Speakers are gifted according to their own characters, some having far more abilities than others, but all playing roles in communication of inner data.  In your terms, therefore, some Speakers would be much more accomplished than others.  For example, there have been a far smaller number of truly prominent Speakers than the numbers given.

There have been less than thirty great Speakers.

The Christ entity was one.  The Buddha was another.  These Speakers are as active when they are nonphysical as when they are physical.  The Christ entity had many reincarnations before the emergence of the Christ “personality” as known; as did the Buddha.

The greatest Speakers do not only translate and communicate inner data, but also go much further into these inner realms of reality than others connected with your physical system.  They add, then, to the basic inner data.  The greatest Speakers have not needed the intensive training necessary for most.  Their unique combination of characteristics has made this unnecessary.

At another level, Emerson was a Speaker.

A man named Maubundu, in Africa, 14 B.C.  The Speakers, more than most, are highly active through all aspects of existence, whether physical or nonphysical, waking or sleeping, between lives or at other levels of reality.  As certain physical data are carried along in the gene structure, so this inner information is codified within whatever psychological structures the Speakers may inhabit; but far more readily available than it is to other personalities.  It needs, often, trigger points to release it, however.  These can take place in either the waking or dream state, and they serve to open up the reservoirs of knowledge and make past training available.

(“Is it possible to name, or describe, a first Speaker?”)

In greater terms, there was no first Speaker.  Imagine that you wanted to be ten places at once, and that you actually sent one portion of yourself to each of these ten places.  Imagine that you could scatter yourself in those ten directions, and that each of the ten portions were conscious, alert, and aware.

You – being the ten of you – would be aware of existence in each of the ten places.  It would be impossible to ask which of the ten arrived first, except to say that all began with the original who decided to visit the ten locations.  So it is with the Speakers, who in the same way do not originate in the locations or in the times in which they may appear.

(“What is the original source of the Speaker data?  Where did it come from, and when?”)

The original source of the Speaker data is the inner knowledge of the nature of reality that is within each individual.  The Speakers are to keep the information alive in physical terms, to see that men do not bury it within and dam it up, to bring it – the information – to the attention of the conscious self.

They speak the inner secrets, in other words.  In some civilizations, as mentioned earlier in this book, they played a much stronger part, practically speaking.  At times they were consistently, consciously and egotistically aware of this information.  It was then that it was memorized.  They realized it was always available at an unconscious level.

They imprinted it, however, upon the physical brain through the use of memory.  There was always great interaction however between inner and outer existence for them, as there is today.  Valid information gained in the dream state was memorized in the morning.  One Speaker heard another’s lesson in the dream state.  On the other hand, pertinent physical data was also communicated one to another in the dream state, and both states were utilized to a high degree.

(Can Speakers work with us while they are between physical lives?”)

They can, and do indeed.  Both of you are being trained by other Speakers who are themselves between lives, this occurring in your dream states.  The Speakers themselves obviously attain varying degrees of efficiency.

The large amount of their work is done from a nonphysical state, earthly existences being somewhat like very important field trips.

(“In Chapter Seventeen you said it would require more training on Jane’s part before she could deliver a Speaker manuscript, and that even then the work involved could take five years.  What kind of training?”)

I was speaking specifically of what you would term an ancient Speaker’s manuscript, and I thought that was what you were referring to.

(“Yes.”)

Ruburt would not be familiar with a good many of the words and phrases used, even if translation from the original languages was made.  There is a difference even in some basic concepts.  To maintain any purity of translation, training in different kinds of inner perception would be necessary.  Some of these languages dealt with pictures rather than words.  In some the symbols had multidimensional meanings.  To deliver such information through Ruburt would be an immense task, but it is possible.  Oftentimes words were hidden within pictures, and pictures within words.  We speak of manuscripts, yet most of these were not written down.

Some were, but at much later dates, and portions exist underground and in caves – in Australia, parts of Africa, and in one area of the Pyrenees.

(“Wouldn’t you say then that these sessions are Speaker training for Jane and me, raised to a conscious level?”)

They are indeed.  The inner information must be consciously recognized.  In your terms, by the time an individual is in his last physical life, all portions of the personality are then familiar with it at the time of death.  The personality is not swept willy-nilly back to another earthly existence, as might be the case otherwise.

The conscious physically oriented portions of the self become acquainted with the inner information.  To some extent the reality of thought is consciously perceived as the innovator behind physical matter.  Such an individual then can understand the nature of hallucinations at the point of death, and with full conscious awareness enter into the next plane of existence.  The information made conscious is then passed on to others where it can be physically recognized and applied.

Now, as to the next question.

(“You told us you were going to elaborate upon what you perceive when you are speaking through Jane to a roomful of people.  In that ESP class session, you mentioned going into a trance yourself, and the effort required by you to pinpoint us in our time and space.”)

I perceive people in a room in a far different manner than they perceive themselves; their various past and future reincarnated personalities, but not their probable selves, are perceivable to me.

I “see” the reincarnated aspects, the various manifestations taken in that regard.  In your terms it would be as if they saw a series of quickly moving pictures, all representing various poses of one personality.  I must remember, in all communications with those in the room, to limit my remarks and focus to the specific reincarnated “present self”.

I see this composite image myself.  It is not registered by Ruburt’s eyes, which do not have the multidimensional depth perception necessary.  I see the composite image clearly, whether or not I am looking through Ruburt’s eyes.  I use his eyes because they narrow down the focus for me, to the one “present” self of which the individual is aware.

Communicating with your system in such a manner demands great diligence and greater discrimination, according to the “distance’ of the communicator from the physical system, for example.  The discrimination comes to bear upon the precision needed to enter your reality at the precise time, the precise point in time and space, upon which you are concentrated.

Present and future experience of those in the room are available to me, and as real as their present experience.  Therefore I must remember what they think has already happened, or not yet occurred, for me it is one.  These patterns of activity, however, are also constantly changing.  I say for example that I am aware of their past and future actions and thoughts; and yet what I am aware of, actually, are ever-shifting and changing patterns, both in the future and in the past.

Some of the events that I see connected very clearly with these persons in the future may not, in your physical system, occur.  They exist as probabilities, as potentials, actualized in thoughts but not turned into definite physical form.  I told you that no events were predetermined.  I would have to tune into a future date, in your terms, and probe it with all of its ramifications in order to ascertain which of the probable actions I saw in your earlier would be actualized in your later.

To a large extent the methods of communication may vary.  A personality based within physical reality, between lives for example, would find entry in many ways easier.  The information he would be able to give, however, would also be limited because of his experience.  I do have a memory of physical existence however, and this automatically helps me in translating your mental data into physical form.  I do perceive objects, for example.  Using Ruburt’s mechanism is of great help here also.  At times I see the room and the people as he, or rather his perceptive mechanisms, do.

In this case I translate or read that data and use it as you might a computer’s.

(“Are you going to tell us about some of the ways you contacted Jane before these sessions began?”)

I mentioned some of that in an earlier chapter.  Much of her training, as Jane, took place in the dream state.  There were frequent out-of-body projections in which she attended classes, taught initially by various Speakers.  The information gained was often brought to conscious layers through the poetry.

There was concentrated training that allowed her to focus inward; an exterior environment that forced her to look inward for answers, and a strong religious structure in which initial growth could take place.  That is enough.

(“Do you have any interest in perceiving our daily lives when you’re not speaking through Jane?  Is this possible?”)

I do not make it a practice to observe.  We are connected, however, in our psychological gestalt, and so I am aware of any intense feelings on your part, or strong reactions of any kind.  This does not mean that I am necessarily aware of all events within your lives, or that I always break down the feelings I receive from you into specifics.

I am generally aware, therefore, of your condition.  If anything upsets Ruburt, he automatically sends me messages about it.  I am aware, within the limitations mentioned, of future events in your lives.  I am much more concerned with your overall spiritual vitality than I am with what you had for breakfast.