Group dreaming

“Group dreaming was at one time taken for granted as a natural human characteristic – in a tribe, for example, when new locations were being sought, perhaps in time of drought.  The various tribal members would have dreams in which the problem was considered, each dreamer tackling whatever aspect of the problem that best suited his or her abilities and personal intents.  The dreamers would travel out-of-body in various directions to see the extent of drought conditions, and to ascertain the best direction for the tribe to take in any needed migration.

“Their dreams would then be shared by the tribe in the morning, or at special meetings, when each dreamer would give a rendition of the dream or dreams that seemed to be involved.  In the same way, other dreamers would simply check with the dreamers of other villages or tribes – perhaps a hundred or even more miles distant. Some such dreams were extremely direct, others were clothed in symbolism according to the style of the dreamer, but in any case the dream was understood to have a public significance as well as a private one.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 933)

Dreams are social events

When reading today’s Seth, I think there is a distinction between dreams with active participation of one or more “others” versus a “private” dream where we play out probabilities by running scripts built upon our beliefs about another person or collective.  That said, the information from that seemingly “private” dream is still shared at other levels.  That’s a side effect of oneness … at some level all thoughts and feelings (both conscious and dreamed) are shared.  What differs is the focus, the clarity of the perception.  The “further” away the awareness is the more abstract it becomes.  

It also pays to bear in mind that the dreams we recall are basically translations/simplifications of far deeper, more abstract events into symbols that we can relate to which convey a feeling and a gestalt of awareness … a superficial glimpse of the unknowable.

“Yet (remembering what I said about seeming contradictions), your dreams are also social events of a kind, and the state of dreaming can almost be thought of as an inner public forum in which each man and woman has his or her say, and in which each opinion, however unpopular, is taken into consideration.  If you want to call any one dream event a private event, then I would have to tell you that that private event actually was your personal contribution to a larger multisided dream event, many-layered, so that one level might deal with the interests of a group to which you belong – say your family, or your political or religious organization – reaching “outward” to the realm of national government and world affairs. As your private conscious life is lived in a community setting of one kind or another as a rule, so do your dreams take place in the same context, so that as you dream for yourself, to some extent you also dream for your own family, for your community, and for the world.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 933)

We have a hand in forming all events

“As I have frequently mentioned, you have a hand in forming all events to one extent or another, and at certain levels you are therefore involved in the construction of those global events that affect the world, whether they be of so-called natural or cultural nature.

“Earlier, I also spoke about the importance of dreams in man’s early background, and their importance to you as a species. Here, I want to stress the social aspects of dreams, and to point out the fact that dreams also show you some of the processes that are involved in the actual formation of physical events: You actually come into an event, therefore, long before the event physically happens, at other levels of consciousness, and a good deal of this prior activity takes place in the state of dreaming.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 933)

It's all about value fulfillment

"Value Fulfillment", for me, is a feeling and not something I can put to words.

“Individually and globewide, value fulfillment is in a fashion the purpose of all events.  Value fulfillment, again, is the impetus that drives the wheels of nature, so to speak.  As the origin of your world did indeed emerge from the “world of dreams”, so the true root of all events lie in such subjective activities, and the answers to individual challenges and problems are always within your grasp, ready to appear in physical actuality.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 932)

Inner Global Communication

Today’s Seth gives us a hint of the amazing degree of coordination/cooperation that happens (even at the global scale) to ensure that our individual 3D snapshots align seamlessly enough to fool us into thinking physical reality is all that is.  That’s why, when we look at global events … Trump, Middle East, Politics, etc. … we are really perceiving highly coordinated, multi-layered representations of the vast explorations into individual and collective human nature that take place in non-3D.  It’s really hard to imagine the vastness of creativity in non-3D!

“Even the conscious mind contains much more information about the structure of events than you realize you possess.  The physical perceiving apparatuses of all organizations carry their own kinds of inner systems of communication, allowing events to be manipulated on a worldwide basis before they take on what appears to be their final definitive physical occurrences in time and space.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 932)

Precognition

“… in most such cases the subjective recognition of an approaching event flows so easily and transparently into your attention, and fits in so smoothly with the events of the day, as to go unnoticed. You help mold the nature and shape of events without realizing it, overlooking those occasions when the processes might show themselves.

“When they do, you might question: Could it be possible that you really were perceiving an action ahead of time? Later, some people more stubborn than others might try to “prove” that some events are definitely precognitively perceived – but the point is that all events are precognitively perceived, and that you actually step into an event, become part of it, reject it, accept the certain version you have “picked up”, or exert yourself to make certain changes that affect the nature of the event itself.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 932)

Inner Perceptive Mechanism (Like Remote Sensing)

“What you have is a kind of inner backbone of perception – a backup program, so to speak, an inner perceptive mechanism with its own precise psychological tuner that in one way or another operates within the field of your intent. This is somewhat like remote sensing, or like an interior radar equipment that operates in a psychological field of attention, so that you are somewhat aware of the existence of certain events that concern you as they come into the closer range of probabilities with which you are connected.

“In a certain fashion, you “step into the event” at that level.  You accept or reject it as a probability.  You make certain adjustments, perhaps altering particular details, but you step into and become part of the inner processes – affecting, say, the shape or size or nature of the event before it becomes a definite physical actuality.

“For centuries that is the main way in which man dealt with the events of his life or tribe or village.  Your modern methods of communication are in fact modeled after your innerones.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 932)

Wellness and value fulfillment

“I have said that in almost every case of severe dissatisfaction or illness, the underlying reasons will not so much be found in the discovery or expression of buried hate or aggression – though these may be present – but in the search for expression of value fulfillment that is for one reason or another being denied.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Private Session April 15, 1981)

The true nature of events

Reading this makes me think of Rita's description of the non-3D experience of events ... creative dreams transcending time, space, probabilities and dimensions of reality!

It's a bit like our personal experience of planet earth.  Because we are so narrowly focused, we only physically see and experience a minute area in time and space of the event of the "peopling" of Earth (aka this moment in this version of the story of humanity).

“The entire nature of events, then, exists in a different way than you have supposed, only small portions slicing into the reality that you recognize – yet all underneath connected to a vast psychological activity.  You might compare events to psychological consonants that underlay or underlie the more unusual features of physical psychological environment.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Reincarnational experiences

“People can become quite frightened, then, of any kind of experiences of a personal nature that imply reincarnational life, for they are then faced with the taboos of science, or perhaps by the distorted explanations of some religions or cults.  You therefore protect yourselves from many quite natural upthrusts that would on their own give you experience with your own reincarnational existences, and you are often denied psychological comfort in times of stress that you might otherwise receive.

“I do not necessarily mean that full-blown pictures of other existences would necessarily come into your mind, but that in one way or another you would receive a support or change of mood as those loved by you in other lives [in] one way or another sensed your need and responded.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Science can't prove or accept reincarnation

“Reincarnation suggests, of course, the extension of personal existence beyond one time period, independently of one bodily form, the translation or transmission of intelligence through nonphysical frameworks, and implies psychological behavior, memory and desire as purposeful action without the substance of any physical mechanism – propositions that science at its present stage of development simply could not buy, and for which it could find no evidence, for its methods would automatically preclude the type of experience that such evidence would require.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Unifying aspects of reincarnation

“[Reincarnation’s] reality, however, serves to generate activity throughout time’s framework as you understand it, to unite the species, to reinforce structures of knowledge, to transmit information, and perhaps most of all to reinforce relationships involving love, brotherhood, and cooperation between generations of men and women that would otherwise be quite separate and apart from each other.

“Through such relationships, for example, say, the cavemen and the people of the 22nd century rub elbows, where in strict terms of time the species would seem to be quite disconnected from its “earlier” or “later” counterparts.

“Through such behavior, the overall value fulfillment purposes and intents of the species are kept in focus, and those necessary requirements then planted in whatever space or time [is] required. Again, free will still operates in all such ventures.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Time

“Time overlays present you with a picture in which you have free will – yet each event that you choose will have its own time version.  Now those time versions may be entirely different one from the others, and while you certainly initiate your own time version, in terms of usual understanding there is no true place or time in which that version can be said to actually originate.

“Such a time version suggests an occurrence in time, of course, and yet the event may leave only a ghostly track, so to speak, being hardly manifest, while in another life that time version may be of considerable prominence – while in your own experience it represents a fairly trivial incident of an ordinary afternoon.

“The inner core of events, however, is held together by just that kind of activity.  You are at every hand provided an unending source of probable events from past and future, from which to compose the events of your lives and society.  Again, let me remind you that all time exists simultaneously.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Importance of accepting reincarnation

“Even if you were aware of reincarnational existences, your present psychological behavior would not be threatened but retain its prominence – for only within certain space and time intersections can physical actions occur.  The more or less general acceptance of the theory of reincarnation, however, would automatically alter your social systems, add to the richness of experience, and in particular insert a fresh feeling for the future, so that you did not feel your lives dead-ended.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Love relationships survive time

“In the culture that you know, such [reincarnational] information remains hidden from you.  Your main belief systems lead you to feel that your present life is singular, unsupported by any knowledge of prior experience with existence, and fated to be cut off or dead-ended without a future.  Instead, you always carry the inner knowledge of innumerable available futures.  Your emotional life at certain levels is enriched by the unconscious realization that those who love you from past or future are connected to you by special ties that add to your emotional heritage and support.

“As many have supposed, particularly in fiction, love relationships do indeed survive time, and they put you in a special correspondence.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

All past & future events are here & now

“It is the usually hidden but definite past and future memories of reincarnational relationships that cement social organizations, from small tribes to large governments.

“To a certain extent, of course, you have been or will be each related to the other.  In that light, all of the events of time rub elbows together.  You brush against the elbow of a future or past event every moment of your lives.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Reincarnation and time versions of larger events

“Such usually unconscious [reincarnational] knowledge is of great benefit to the species itself, so that at certain levels, at least, the knowledge of the species is not imprisoned within any given generation at once, but flows or circulates within the overall larger reincarnational picture.  Probabilities are very much involved here, of course, and it is easier for particular events to fall within one time sequence than another.

“I do not want you to feel that you are fated to experience certain events, however, for that is not the case.  There will be “offshoots” of the events of your own lives, however, that may appear as overlays in your other reincarnational existences.  There are certain points where such events are closer to you than others, in which mental associations at any given time may put you in correspondence with other events of a similar nature in some future or past incarnation, however.  It is truer to say that those similar events are instead time versions of one larger event.  As a rule, you experience only one time version of any given action.  Certainly it is easy to see how a birthday or anniversary, or particular symbol or object, might serve as an associative connection, rousing within you memories of issues or actions that might have happened under similar circumstances in other times.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

Time overlays

“Time overlays are versions of master events, in that they occur in such a fashion that one “face” of an overall event may appear in one time, one in another, and so forth.

“Time overlays are the time versions of certain events, then.  These time overlays always exist.  They may become activated, however, by certain associations made in your present, and therefore draw into your present time some glimpses either from the future or the past.  So-called present time is thickened, then, by a psychological realization on deep levels of the psyche that all events are interrelated, and that the reincarnational experiences of any given individual provide a rich source of experience from which each person at least unconsciously draws.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 931)

The Christ story and christianity

“The Christ story in the beginning was not nearly as singular and neat as it might now seem, for the finally established official Christ figure was one settled upon from endless versions of a god-man, with which man’s psyche has long been involved: He was the psychic composite, the official Christ, carrying within his psychological personages echoes of old and new gods alike – a figure barely begun, to be filled out in time, although originating outside of it.

“Such master events cause physical events, but they do not originate from them.

“Paul (Saul of Tarsus) had his vision.  Now the vision (in which Paul not only saw the light of Christ, but heard his voice) happened in the world of fact.  It occurred – but Paul did not see, or communicate with, a person of divine heritage, sent by his father to earth, who lived the life of the official Christ, and who was crucified.  Paul had a vision in response to the needs, desires, and dictates of his own psyche as it was connected to the world of his time, following the patterns of stories about Christ that he had heard that had begun to release within him a great yearning that was, in that vision, then, expressed.

“Christianity for many centuries served as an amazingly creative organizational framework, that expressed the vast complexity of the soul’s reality.  It also in its way managed to even focus some of man’s less handsome attributes towards ends that were less reprehensible than in the past.  Master events of that particular nature bring about a completely new interpretation of historic events.  Their intensity, power, and seemingly impelling nature exist precisely because their origins are not physical, but are drawn from the psyche’s deepest resources.” 

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)

Biblical representations of master events

“The story of Creation, as Biblically stated, is the symbolic representation of a master event – a legend that became its own event, of course, forming about it whole arts and cultures, religions and disciplines.  The same applies to Christianity itself, for all of the seemingly historical events connected with the official Christ did not happen in physical reality.  They happened at another level of actuality, and were inserted into your time framework – touching a character here, a definitely known historical event there, mixing and merging with the events of the time, until the two lines of activity were so entwined that you could not unravel one without unraveling the other.

“History happened in certain definite forms because of a belief in events that did not, in your world of facts, occur.  The main, brilliant thrust of those inner events, therefore, splashed out upon the human landscape, propelling peoples and civilizations.” 

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)

Our focuses form our idea of historical context

“It is probably almost impossible for man to see that he forms the idea of historical context through his own associations and focuses.  The heavy, specialized use of so-called rational thought has often caused him to narrow even his neurological recognition of other kinds of experience that might enlarge his view.  In dreams, there is greater leeway in that regard.  Consciousness becomes more familiar with its own inner motion, and even with the kinds of work and actions it performs outside of its usual waking prejudices.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)

"Species" of Time

As I read today’s Seth it reminds me of experiences I’ve had where time has slowed down or sped up to varying degrees.  It seemed to slow down during moments of potential crisis where rapid action was required to avoid potential injury … and it seemed to speed up when I was so absorbed in what I was doing that I lost track of time.  I believe all of us have had experiences like that … which gives rise to the term “psychological time” as a term to describe our perception of time.  

Seth is obviously talking about something more fundamental than our perception of time … he’s talking about different realities with different “speeds” and even different definitions of time that are outside our range of physical perception or intellectual comprehension.  Like a TV tuned to a specific channel, we’re precisely tuned to a 3D Earth vibration in physical reality and, consequently, we are unaware of the overlapping realities playing out in each moment that are tuned differently to our 3D perception.

Musicians like Jimi Hendrix had their own “species of time” … if you look at Jimi's face while he played you saw an altered state of consciousness (channelling his inner Jimi outside of time).  Maybe Jimi was from another world???? LoL

“Your historical time is, say, but one species of time that dwells upon the earth.  There are many others.  Time itself emerges from idea, which is itself timeless, so in those terms there was no point where time began, though such a reference becomes necessary from your own viewpoint.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)

The World of Ideas

When we look at the world today and read today’s Seth, it makes us think what in the world were we thinking!!!!!  

The Transcendors (channeled by Rik Thurston) once were asked how all this physical reality started and they said something like: We (as souls/spirits) wondered: “What would it be like if ….”.  As soon as we started that thought the journey began, we never got to complete the thought! 

That reminds me of the story in “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”  where the computer called Deep Thought was asked “The meaning of life, universe and everything” (something like that). After a huge amount of time, the answer came back “42”.  That wasn’t a good enough, so Earth was purpose-built as the most advanced computer in the universe to ask the ultimate question … unfortunately it got accidentally destroyed to build a space “bypass” before the answer was discovered.  Apparently, we’ll keep this Earth computer running long enough to awaken and ascend to the upgraded Earth computer … in an unending quest to find that answer.

“The world of ideas everywhere permeates physical reality, but ideas, even when they are unexpressed, possess their own organizations and correspondences, their own spheres of motion and development.  Master events emerge from that reality of idea, now, from which all ideas originate, uniting these through the use of natural correspondences.  Every physical manifestation that you know has its nonphysical counterpart, in which it is always couched, from which it came, and to which it will return.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)

Behinds the 3D scene

“There are “durations”, then, that have nothing to do with time as you understand it: psychological motions that manipulate time but are apart from it.  Any sudden emergence of a completed universe would then imply an unimaginable and a spectacular development of organization – that it did not just appear from nowhere, but as the “completed physical version” of an inner highly concentrated endeavor, the physical manifestation of an inspiration that then suddenly emerges into physical actuality.

“That kind of activity, that kind of “work”, exists behind all of the structures and organizations and experiences with which you are familiar.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)

"Master Events" and time

When you read today’s Seth it is easy to see how little we “understand” about physical reality.  

Physicists have postulated the Big Bang and Big Bounce as the “start” of our universe … but that is just the start of their mathematical descriptions and it provides no insight at all as to how the whole shebang began.  The source of our reality is beyond intellectual understanding.  

The Qabalists got this and recognized that the perceived universe actually arises in each moment … something Dogen and some of the Buddhists understood and something that a small group of physicists (such as Julian Barbour and Carlos Rovelli) seem to understand.  

All this to say that modern science is hypnotized by its mathematical “descriptions” and instruments.  True “science” has to start with understanding consciousness and exploring the unseen dimensions of the Mind that is dreaming this reality.


“Now, master events, then, involve “work” or action whose main thrust exists outside of time, yet whose effects are felt within time.

“Such effects may appear suddenly within time’s context, rather than slowly emerge, say, into that framework.  It is, of course, that kind of outside-of-time activity that in your terms explains the origin of the universe.  There are dimensions of activity, then, that do not appear within time’s structure, and developments that happen quite naturally, following different laws of development than those you recognize.  It is not just that highly accelerated versions of time can occur at other levels of actuality, but that there are dimensions in which those [versions] are no impediments to the natural “flow” of events into expression.”

(Dreams, “Evolution” and Value Fulfillment Vol 2, Session 928)